"The West Surrey Cyclist" - Issue 4 - Summer 1986

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Front cover - very similar to Issue 1
Inner front cover - same as Issue 1
Editorial - by Robert Shiels
'English Defeat at Agincourt' - by Robert Shiels
Marguerite's '50'
'Vital Statistics' - by Chris Jeggo
'Fixed Hell' - by Steve Pack
'Seven Let Loose on the Isle of Wight' - by Joan Robinson
Cartoon 'Every club Should Have One' - 'The Trans-Sahara Cyclist'
Secretary's Shorts
- Cafe News
- Tour of the Hills
- Breakfast Ride
- Inter DA Hostelling
- August Bank Holiday
- Membership
- Hugh Rawlinson
- Bikes on Trains
- Junior Section News
- School Holidays
- Guildford Town Show
- Headquarters Open Day
- Tandem Run
- County Rides
- Runs to Meet Reading DA
Wednesday Evening Rides
Be Sociable in the Wet
Inner back cover - advertisement - Woking Cycles
Outer back cover - advertisement - Get On Your Bike

Selected items transcribed from the original printed copy:






This issue marks a milestone in the life of the West Surrey CTC DA magazine because thanks to all our support staff and contributors we've now managed a whole years worth of editions.  I'm pleased to say that copies I've sent to independent reviews have been very well received and we seem to have a good product here.  Nevertheless the continuation still depends on you, our readers and contributors, so although the editors job is getting more difficult, do keep the articles rolling in.

One noticeable absence so far has been contributions from the Wayfarers group.  I know that some of them can write and there must be many a good tale which we'd all enjoy, so come on Bill force your lot to put pen to paper.

My apologies are due to Russ Mantle who I missed off the committee last issue.  Eagle eyed readers of cycling will notice that a certain R. Mantle (yes it's the same one) is cropping up in their '25 years ago' column as a "Surrey fast man and prolific winner of Southern time trials".  Now you know why Russ still manages to keep the General Section pace high.  Will we see Dave Butler in this column in 25 years time?  We just might!

Your committee to whom articles can be passed is:-

Mr. Bill Inder Mr. Russ Mantle
Mr. Les Moss Mr. Keith Parfitt
Dr Helen Juden Mr. David Pinkess
Mrs Gill Smith Mr. Roy Banks
Mr. Mike Harlow Mr. George Alesbury
Mrs Marguerite Statham

I've had several pleas for technical articles in the magazine and we've got our first in this issue.  More are required so get writing now.  On the technical side can anyone remember and describe a Cinelli rear hub unit which allowed rear wheel removal whilst leaving the block in place; letters to me please at:- 32 Wensleydale Drive, Camberley, Surrey, GU15 1SP.

The deadline for the next magazine will be 15th September so start writing your summer tours up soon.

Happy cycling

Robert Shiels

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What a headline.  Well now that we've got your attention I'll tell you what its all about.

Spurred on by the success of Les Moss Travel's expedition to France at Easter '85, six DA members decided to ignore all warnings about Easter being earlier this and try a return visit albeit on a smaller scale of numbers, time and distance.  So it was that on Easter Saturday Messeiurs and Madames Crawshaw, Robinson and Shiels met at Joans fathers house just outside Dover and made a careful freewheel down to catch the 0930 hrs ferry to Boulogne.  Incidentally for those interested in the finer crafts in life, Joan's father is one of the best woodcarver furniture makers I've ever met and a tour of this home after this trip revealed some of the finest quality work in both oak and mahogany I've ever seen, I suspect even the late lamented Arthur Negus would also have been impressed.

After a short uneventful crossing of the Manche our minds (well OK mine) turned to thoughts of food especially since the advance of our watches made it neatly lunchtime by the time we'd cycled ashore into Boulogne.  The newer parts of Boulogne have little to offer in way of scenery but inside the old walled Haute Ville little has changed over the centuries.  We entered the old town through one of several patcullised gates and walked along the narrow cobbled streets looking for a suitable start to the 'vacance'.  Our cycles were soon padlocked to the outside of a real find, tables were soon rearranged to accommodate our party the food and wine were excellent and after paying our bill and about to depart Monsuir le Patron presented me with a rather nice bottle of Cote de Bergerac 'from one cyclist to another'!

Although I had promised the Co-operative (Crawshaw, Robinson Shiels = CRS) that we were in the Haute Ville which meant the top of the town, we still met a stiff long climb out of the new town onto the busy N42.  A new, rather good, cycle path made life easier for a while but we soon turned into the byways through the Forest of Boulogne (a regular cyclists training route on Sundays).  The lanes took us under an overcast sky to the pretty market town of Desvres where we turned south to join the D127 down the Vallee de la Course.

Hazel and I had ventured into the beautiful Course valley during a motor trip in October '85 and had instantly decided that a return on more civilised transport was necessary to fully appreciate this fine piece of rural France.  For those readers wishing to emulate our trip, be warned, the countryside inland from Boulogne is far from flat and numerous little arrows can be spotted on the Michelin map.  The effect of this was that by Desvres some of our party with insufficient miles in their legs were beginning to suffer.

The last climb onto the head of the Valley proved fairly hard with touring loads but soon the Co-op were all enjoying the long descent down past the river source and numerous old mills all the way to Inxent; our base for the weekend.  The weather had turned decidedly damp but as you will appreciate a route that can look attractive in the rain is really special and this was just such a run.

Our base at Inxent was the Relais d' Equestre establishment which also has about five rather fine double bedrooms.  Due to Gerry's recent case of severe pains of the wallet brought about by the purchase of a new Dawes tandem we had elected to forego the delights of the rooms and bedded down in the small upstairs dormitary built to accommodate touring groups like ours.  Price 40F per person with a good breakfast extra at 18F each and the dorm only sleeps seven but in some comfort compared to the average English Youth Hostel ('scuse my prejudice creeping in).

We awoke on Sunday morning still feeling the effects of the superb meal at Madame Ligniers in Beussent; a short walk away from Inxent along the riverside.  The weather did'nt look good but we decided to reach Agincourt or Azincourt as it is known in France.  The ride started pleasantly enough but as we climbed onto higher ground the wind started to blow and rain came at us sideways.  At this point Joan got the only puncture of the whole trip which was quickly repaired in a handy farm barn.  The weather, however, was now really getting bad, a full gale had started to blast across the exposed plateau top and it started to snow in earnest.  Visibility went and Hazel being the lightest in the group was having difficulty keeping her bike on the road in the now storm force 10 side wind.

It was with great relief that we descended to Hucqueliers and the town cafe.  It was here we decided that the English had been defeated in reaching Agincourt.  We were however, welcomed with genuine warmth in the cafe and soon tables had been spread and were introduced to warming local beverages and excellent home cooking.  It is difficult to imagine the same sort of reception being given to six soaked cyclists in many an English village but in France the bicycle is known as la Petite Reine (the Little Queen) and its riders given the respect they deserve.

Our defeat was celebrated that night at the local Auberge d'Inxent and on Monday morning we set out again to Agincourt.  A rather direct assault this time along the D126 and D343 but it worked.  Agincourt revealed itself to be a quiet but pretty rural village with no real evidence of the famous battle remaining except a large stone memorial by the side of the D928 marking the spot where the flower of France were entombed.  Our return ride, although damp at times, along the rivers Planquette and Canche was exceptionally pleasant.  An afternoon hot chocolate stop at Marenla resulted in an interesting debate with le Patron on wether we'd like to cycle through the yet to be built Channel Tunnel.  All ended up agreeing that we'd believe it would be built when we saw it!

After some 50 odd miles that day an evening cycle to the Cocatrix Restaurant at Zerables (3 km from Inxent) resulted in one of our best meals so far and after sampling Madames liquers including a powerful Poire William Suisse the track of our lamp back to Inxent proved that even good cyclists wobble and laugh a lot sometimes!  This was also the evening when Laurie's snoring in the dorm was dealt with by a successful battering from Joan's pump (is this an Australian love tap we ask?).

Tuesday 1st April marked our last day and the Robinson's 25th Wedding Anniversary so we woke them up with Champagne for breakfast.  Was it this I wonder or did the weather really get better that day.  Perhaps a combination of both but the ride back to Boulogne went smoothly and before long some heavily laden touring cycles sloshed their way onto the ferry under the weight of dozens of full wine bottles and back to England.

In summary we still recommend the Relais d' Equestre and the Valley of the Course to all DA members but not so early in the year.  Next Easter we'll take note of the warnings and head for sunnier climes.


Conversation in the Pub after the '50' on Sunday 6th April.
Ed. Marguerite, how about an article for the magazine?
Marguerite. "Haven't you had enough from me?  (Referring to previous mags).  "OK I'll write about today".  So here goes. 

I cycled to Jacobs Well Scout Hut with David Pinkess and we both selected 9 a.m. as our start time.  100 yards after the start we came to our first hill and I was on my own!  I cycled through Westfield and wanted desparately to turn left for home but something made me continue onto Old Woking, Send and East Clandon where I was confronted by Coombe Bottom (or top!).  Thinking it sensible to preserve some energy for later I walked up the steepest part.  I then whizzed down the other side at 32 m.p.h. and straight over the A25 into Shere Village.  Up over Pitch Hill (no easy route for me!) onwards into Ewhurst and so into Cranleigh where panic struck - which way now?  Maps read I decided to turn right and there up the road, looking very lonely and frozen was check point Hamish.  At this point, 20-25 miles from the start I had averaged approx. 11.5 m.p.h. so had decided to make my completion target 4½ hrs which would allow me one or two 'tea and Mars bar' stops of about 5+ mins. each.  I had my first tea stop in a bus shelter at Alford Crossroads much to the amusement of about 5 Generals who whizzed past!

Slightly refreshed I continued on through Lakers Green, Dunsfold, Plaistow - now averaging about 11.8 m.p.h. - Kirkford and on to Polly's squash and bikky check point just before Wisborough Green - now only 15 miles left!!

Refreshed once more I pedalled on through Drungewick and reached a point 10 miles from home with 1 hr 15 mins left.  Easy, I thought, anyone can cycle 10 miles in 1¼ hrs!!!

On through Bucks Green where more map reading was needed to find the road to Ellen's Green; onto Ewhurst Green and Ewhurst - no sign anywhere to Holmbury so out came the map again.  By this time my legs no longer belonged to me; my brain was trying to tell me to give up but I wouldn't listen to either and found by own route to pick up the Holmbury Hill road - another walk.  At the T-junction the signpost had been broken so after more map consultation, I continued and on reaching the 50 mile point I had a private celebration - 4 hours and 27 minutes.  Walking upwards and cycling onwards I finally arrived at the Pub to be checked in, in an official time of 4 hours and 33 minutes.  I felt well satisfied with my efforts.  I had enjoyed the challenge that I had set myself.  Next year I shall know to aim for 4½ hours and hope that I don't need to map read too often as it is a time consumer.

I reached West Clandon on my way home to Woking and phoned my husband.  He met me at the Happy Eater at Burnt Common and carried me home ................. !!

Thanks Roy for organising the day - a great challenge for Body and Mind!

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45" - 60" - 80".  Those whose minds are obsessed by bisexuals rather than bicycles will be wondering how many misprints there are above.  Now that I have your attention I will reveal all;  this article is about gearing, as hub gear enthusiasts will have guessed from the instantly recognisable pattern of the Sturmey-Archer AW.

More than ten years experience of riding with the DA has convinced me that I need no more than seven gear ratios, and most of the time I am happy with six or even five.  My ideal seven would be (in inches):-

85  76  67  58  50  42  35,

or thereabouts.  The constraints are as follows.

1) I spend a lot of time in "normal" and have found that I want this to be within an inch or two of 67".

2) The overall range required and the acceptable step size determine the rest of the sequence.

There are plenty of people who want a lower bottom gear, a higher top, or smaller steps.  Some want all three, and are forced to use multiple chainwheels, but I prefer to avoid such complexity except when I really need the benefits.  Incidentally, I have never toured in big mountains such as the Alps, and would probably find an eighth, lower gear desirable there.

Over the years I have read and heard discussion of whether gear ratios should be in arithmetic progression (equal steps in inches) or geometric progression (equal percentage changes).  I can not think of any theoretical justification for either, and consider that experience should be the guide, leading to something in between.  For the hill-climbing gears (below 55", say) one wishes to be able to find a ratio which matches one's power output and desired pedalling speed to the gradient, so something approaching a geometric progression is probably best.  For gears above normal, air resistance is the dominant force to be overcome, and this increases rapidly with speed, indicating a progression nearer to arithmetic.  In any case, the integer arithmetic of sprocket sizes means that one can never get the exact set of ratios one wants.

So much for theorising:  what can be achieved in practice?  When I first started touring I decided to try five speeds, and change to ten later if necessary.  I chose

27" wheel
42 teeth
14t 17t 20t 24t 28t
81" 67" 57" 47" 41"

which uses a standard block, and one with which most standard (as opposed to long cage) rear mechanisms can cope.  The range is a bit limited at both ends, and the jump from 67" to 81" is a bit large, but it is a good compromise, and I stuck with it for five years.

After hearing good reports of the then new narrow 6-speed blocks, I decided to try one:-

27" wheel
42 teeth
13t 15t 17t 20t 24t 30t
87" 76" 67" 57" 47" 38"

This is based once again on a standard block, but with its largest 28t sprocket replaced with a 30t sprocket bought separately.  (Replacement sprockets are fairly readily available for Suntour Ultra-6 and Maillard Compact).  When the block wears out, the 30t sprocket can be saved (it will hardly be worn) and transferred to the next standard block.  In this way one builds up a useless collection of 28t sprockets, but then standard blocks are much cheaper than custom ones.  Obviously one needs at least a chain wrench to change sprockets.  I also found that a freewheel vice makes the job much easier:  Var make a reasonably priced one which is quite satisfactory.  As for the ratios, I can think of no better set of six for my purposes.  There are drawbacks, of course.  The ends of the chain rivets rubbed slightly on the next larger sprocket (and I was using a narrow chain), as evidenced by increased noise and faint scratch marks on the surface of the sprockets.  I do not know what mechanical losses this causes:  they are probably not significant.  Also, there can be difficulties getting a good gear change with a "narrow" system.

When planning a strenuous tour in 1983, I felt it might be as well to have closer ratios and a lower bottom gear.  Anyway, it was about time I gave multiple chainwheels a serious try.  I first tried to design a 10 speed set-up.  The trouble is that, as conventionally installed, one does not use the two extreme cross-over gears because of chain misalignment, giving just four ratios on each chain-ring.  With two ratios above normal on the outer ring, I could only drop one below it before having to change rings, e.g.,

27" wheel
44 teeth
32 teeth
14t 16t 18t 21t 24t
85" 74" 66" 57"  - 
 -  54" 48" 41" 36"

and I reckoned that that would make for too many changes between rings in the hills.  Then I remembered an article I had read which argued that (i) adding a third ring adds very little complexity given that one already has the front changer and control lever for the second, and (ii) one uses 15 speeds for convenience rather than to achieve 15 distinct ratios, so that duplication of ratios does not matter, within reason.  Out came the gear tables again and I produced (on paper)

27" wheel
47 teeth
44 teeth
32 teeth
14t 16t 18t 21t 24t
91" 79" 71" 60"  - 
85" 74" 66" 57" 50"
 -  54" 48" 41" 36"

The idea is that one spends most of the time on the middle ring, with four fairly even steps between the five ratios.  For climbing, changing to the inner ring is equivalent to dropping two steps, while the outer ring gives a half step up ("overdrive") for those rare occasions when the world is slightly downhill with a tailwind.  Actually, the overdrive is a luxury, not strictly necessary.  It was only introduced to get the 42t ring in line with the middle sprocket.  At last it struck me!  It's amazing how long it sometimes takes to see the obvious.  The thing to do is to fit a double chain-ring on a single-length bottom bracket axle, giving nine usable gears:

27" wheel
44 teeth
32 teeth
14t 16t 18t 21t 24t
85" 74" 66" 57" 50"
 -  54" 48" 41" 36"

I tried it, and was well pleased with the ratios, but less so with the front changer:  I got fed up with having to adjust it to eliminate rubbing and rattles caused by alterations in chain alignment when changing gear at the rear.  So when the block and chain wore out I reverted to my '5's and narrow '6's.

A few recent items in the cycling press started me thinking about hub gears.  Using a Sturmey-Archer S5 hub for touring, I would choose

27" wheel
44 teeth
x 3/2 x 19/15 22t x 15/19 x 2/3
81" 68" 54" 43" 36"

but I do not like the look of that gap between 68" and 54".  However, there's no substitute for experience, and I am looking forward to trying it soon, having just fitted an almost identical set-up (the only difference is a 42t chain-ring) to Lynette's bike.

The problem with hub gears is that their epicyclic mechanism inevitably leads to geometric progressions:  it is almost impossible to achieve both adequate range and acceptable steps. However, by adding an extra sprocket and a simple rear mechanism it is possible to achieve a useful set of ratios.  Here are two possibilities for the S-A AW 3-speed hub:-

27" wheel
19 teeth
22 teeth
x 4/3 47t x 3/4
89" 67" 50"
77" 58" 43"
Normal is 4th gear and direct drive.
27" wheel
19 teeth
22 teeth
x 4/3 42t x 3/4
80" 60" 45"
69" 52" 39"
Normal is 5th gear, but not direct.

Chris Juden has written a technical leaflet "Hybrid Gearing", available from CTC HQ, which goes into this subject in depth.

Finally, there is the Sachs-Huret Orbit Commander 2-speed hub which takes six sprockets for a derailleur system.  With a 42t chain-ring the ratios are

27" wheel
42 teeth
x 0.74
13t 15t 17t 19t 21t 24t
87" 76" 67" 60" 54" 47"
65" 56" 49" 44" 40" 35"
No choice of sprockets.

A very useful set of ratios, but the system combines the disadvantages of derailleur gears with those of hub gears, and should only be considered by those who cannot or will not use a double chain-ring, but who needs more than six ratios.

I could go on at much greater length, but the last word on cycle gearing has yet to be written, and that not by me!

Chris Jeggo

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The day I decided to ride a 100 km Audax on fixed wheel I was either very confident or just plain daft.

The event in question was the Tanners Hatch/Redhill C.C. Brevet populaire, on the 20th October which started at Westhumble, just outside Dorking.

After the usual rush of three shredded wheat and a bowl of muesli I piled the velo into the estate car and stormed off to meet Richard, who I had persuaded that the event would be excellent mid-season training for something or other.

The start place was deserted apart from an unshaven Graham Peddie and a fertilizer pong that could be sliced with a knife.  It was then that I should have made an excuse and gone home as a very fit looking, advertisement covered rider tip-toed into the yard: complete with carbon-fibre Peugeout.

Fifteen minutes later we were canonballing along the A24 into Dorking and wishing our saddlebags had been left in the car.  The punch soon split however, on the climb towards Newdigate as Richard forced the pace and again I wished that I had gone home!  As we passed through Gadbrook crossroads I realised that the three of us were alone, as carbon-fibre contrasted my rather rapid pedalling to his 108" gear.  He later admitted that he was an ex-racer from the continent!

The first check point was at Elaines tea rooms in Leigh where we received a very enthusiastic welcome, as always, from the family hound.  After being lashed senseless by its tail we discovered that carbon-fibre had done a runner and left us to gulp scaling tea, as the main bunch arrived in dribs and drabs.

A flat route saw us eyeballs out, through Horley and Smallfield and onto the second check at Wasp Green, where a rather sharp left turn has us grovelling in gravel.  Carbon-fibre was struggling with a large cheese roll and made a comment about baggy trousers which caused Richard to spray his scone over my jacket!

The next section had us scratching our heads due to unclear directions, but eventually we traced through Lingfield, Edenbridge and into Hever.  I chose this point to do a stint on the front and successfully managed to bring the pace down to a sociable pace and enjoy the beautiful cottages in the area, (nothing to do with the fact that my legs had turned to jelly five miles previously).

The route had now taken on a decidedly more rolling aspect and I was struggling to keep in contact.  Crookham Hill proved to be a formidable adversary; we were half-way up when carbon-fibre realised the Hostel was in the opposite direction, and this was of course, the third check point.  My legs buckled and I mega-bonked as Richard sailed by with a grin that would have put the Cheshire cat to shame.  As we pondered in the Hostel a couple of hard men!, arrived and suggested lunch in the pub at the top of the hill.  How I kept to carbon-fibres' wheel is a mystery as I forced every bit of strength out of my legs.

Lunch went far too quickly as Richard stormed off after carbon-fibre who had done another runner.  I was left bouncing at 180 r/min as my saddlebag overtook me.

If you have never been up Titsey Hill then you have never climbed.  Twenty minutes later I crawled to the top of the 660 yard long - 1 : 8 and 1 : 4 wall.  Later that day Steve Marchant rode the hill in 2 mins 7 secs to win the Bec C.C. hill climb!

A second wind saw me on Richard's wheel as we sped towards Caterham and up yet another evil climb.  From there on I never quite recovered as my left knee developed a painful clicking and no quarter was given from an unsympathetic companion.

Check four, however, was to be my salvation as it was situated outside a Happer Eater.  Visions of bonk rations were murdered as we squeeled to a halt in the crowded car park!

We continued on through Chipstead, Kinswood and onto Pebble Coombe towards Box Hill, where I managed a wave to a fellow sufferer going up the hill.  I was now left to my own devices as Richard had been burning rubber and carbon-fibre was by now way ahead.  I managed to put on a show on the climb to Westhumble Station and into the finish, to get in under 4½ hours, just as the sprints and tubs brigade arrived!

Steve Pack

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The following article purports to accurately report the latest Ladies Only Weekend on the Isle of Wight.  Several incriminating photographs have come to light since I received this article featuring extra large portions of chocolate cake and I've heard rumours of wild goings on in Ventnor discos by a certain Mrs Robinson.  Still the report below may be true or just a cover up job; humble males will never find out!  Ed.

Four of us met at Woking Station and were seen on our way by two husbands and the President (no doubt to make sure we really left before making their own arrangements).  The other three we collected on route on the way to Portsmouth.

We had an uneventful crossing to Fishbourne from where we took a leisurely route to Wooton Bridge, Whippington and through East Cowes.  Didn't see England's entrant to the America's Cup.  Then another short ferry trip across to West Cowes, Gunnard and towards Newtown, by which time we were all feeling hunger pangs.

We stopped outside a pub and Gill went in to see if the landlord could feed seven hungry females.  He assured her he could so we sent Jill in first.

We then rode on to see the old Town Hall at Newtown and had a look around the beautiful village of Newtown.  We had a walk out onto the river estuary and I for one am beginning to associate Helen Juden with mud, she only seems to be happy if she is persuading people to either walk in water and mud over their ankles, or push their bikes through mud up to the brake blocks.  Anyway, I liked the estuary with all the different sea birds and on the way back looked into some converted pig sties made into little court yards.

The route followed on via Shalfleet, Wellow, Yarmouth and eventually Totland, where we had a bed for the night.  The proprietors were highly amused to have seven females arrive on cycles, but made us very comfortable, food excellent.  We were all impressed with the kettles and tea provisions in our rooms.

Our evening constitution was along the beach from Colway Bay to Totland in the pouring rain.  Poor Helen Gill got rather drowned with no waterproofs.

Sunday morning it was still raining, three early birds got up, two went for a walk and one got her bike out which was at the bottom of the pile and had a ride before breakfast.  After a hearty breakfast we had a look at the "Needles", they were still there, and then onto Freshwater, Afton and Calbourne.  Gill had to show us Winkle Street, Yafford Mill and then on to Carisbrooke for lunch.  At the mill we saw the remnants of a group of men dressed in sheepskins and carrying wooden swords and shields back from a "Rape and Pillage".  They took one look at our bikes and disappeared.

We then went through Newport and stopped to have a look round the Butterfly farm just outside Fishbourne.  As we went through the door the layers of clothes came off.  Just the same way as the chrysalis shed their coverings to become beautiful butterflies.  I can't say that we became beautiful but fresh air found parts that haven't seen the light of day in six months.  It was certainly worth the stop.

Gill unknown to us had asked Helen Juden to take us on an interesting route back to Hyde.  She did that alright, yes youv'e guessed it through MUD.  Up bridleways and passed Quarr Abbey and beautiful views of the bay.  We came out on the main road and dropped down into Ryde.

The only blight on the weekend was due to British Rail cancelling the stop at Woking so we all had to get off at Guildford.  Never mind.

I think I can say for all of us.  Thank You Gill for all the hard work you put into organising the weekend and to Helen Juden for map reading and being able to point out places of interest.

Joan Robinson

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Marshalls and helpers are urgently needed for the Tour of the Hills Audax event on 3rd August.  Names to Helen or Roy Banks please.  The marshalls' briefing will take place at the Clubroom on Wed. 2nd July.


From 8 a.m. at Puttenham Village Hall, School Lane.
Head Chef: Mrs Marina Butler.
Menu: Bacon, Sausage & egg
Bread, butter and marmalade
Orange juice, tea or coffee
Tickets: Advance Only, from committee members
Cost: £2.50

Three rides, collecting on route, starting off from 6.a.m.  Approx. departure times on tickets, do not allow for 'waiting time'.
Farnham - Ash - Frimley Green - Pirbright - Normandy - Puttenham.
Chertsey - Chobham - Woking - Mayford Green - Normandy - Puttenham.
Abinger - Shalford - Godalming - Thursley - Elstead - Puttenham.


Advance notice - a joint hostelling weekend has been arranged to meet East Sussex DA at Crockham Hill YH on the weekend of 1/2 November.  Further information from Helen or Russ.


Anyone wanting to go on a short tour over the August Bank Holiday weekend, please contact Helen Juden.  YHA or B&B, train or car assisted, destination to be decided depending on demand.


Marguerite Statham has kindly agreed to take over the DA membership records.  Letters to new members are sent out regularly and delivered by hand where possible.  Please contact Marguerite if you can help with this for your area.


About £30 was collected in memory of Hugh and sent to the British Heart Foundation, Guildford Branch.  Thank you everyone who contributed.


New regulations should be available from British Rail by 12th May.  Ask at your local station for a leaflet.


Rides for junior members living in the Woking/Guildford area are being organised on a casual basis this summer.  (What summer?)  The first was reputedly enjoyed by all and more are planned.  Potential helpers or riders should contact Keith Parfitt Guildford 60776 or Les Moss Woking 63262 for details.  Watch this space for news of what could be the DA's fastest growing group!


The Godalming Holiday Fund arranges activities for school children during the holidays and would like someone to help by leading one or two cycle rides.  Volunteers should contact Sue Ryan, Godalming 7334.


We hope to take part in the Guildford Town Show Procession on August 30th as a publicity exercise.  Last year's effort was enjoyed by participants who felt it was well worth repeating.  Detailed plans have not yet been made and depend on the number of volunteers and machines available.  If you can help please contact Mike Harlow on Dorking 731218.

DA members are invited to visit CTC HQ on Sunday 20th July.  The club shop will be open, refreshments available and staff members on hand to answer your questions.  Why not go and see how they spend your money?

Advance Notice - Tandem Run on October 26th.  Details from Mike Harlow, Dorking 731218.

Surrey County Council, with the help of CTC HQ, has prepared a booklet of short cycle rides in the rural parts of the county.  Each route includes a short-cut option and is well described by a map and text giving information on places of interest.  The guide is a good way of encouraging people teetering on the brink of taking up or resuming cycling - persuade a friend to try one of the rides or try them yourself, you might even discover something new!  The booklet costs £1 and is available from the County Council Offices or CTC HQ.

Similar rides prepared by Gloucestershire County Council are presented in an attractive pack of leaflets including accommodation list and tourist information.  The ten linking routes could form a very pleasant tour.  Helen has a sample pack if you would like to see it, or send £1 to Shire Hall, Gloucester, GL1 2TN.

Projects like this have been developed in various parts of the country, further information from CTC HQ.

On 20th July two runs have been arranged to meet the Reading DA for coffee and/or lunch and/or tea.  See the runs list for details.  This is one of a programme of joint runs which we hope to arrange.  If you have suggestions for others please contact any committee member.

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Dear Ed,

Grumble, grumble, grumble, grumble!

I bet you won't print this in the magazine because

i) Nobody wants to read grumbles,
ii) they do not fairly represent the truth, and
iii) I am cowering beneath the cloak of anonymity.

Yours etc.,

A Nonny Mouse

Dear Ed,

To a Grumbling Intermediate, I myself have arrived after everyone else at Abinger Hammer, to find not an empty chair and a long queue.  I turned round and rode home without cake or a cuppa.  Why don't we use the Barn Cafe?  Theres plenty of room and we would be warmly welcome, so come on Russ give us more room. and book the Barn Cafe.

I must reject the claim at dangerous overtaking and swerving onto the A25, do you think I or any General would pull out onto the main road if anything had been coming along?

This sprinting for a sign or tea has been a thing of the General Section for many years and is enjoyed by all.  After all we are out to enjoy our Sunday ride and if this includes mass sprinting "GREAT".  I enjoy touring but I also like a challenge of sprinting to a sign or tea.  Lets hope in future a tea place can be arranged so we all can enjoy a cuppa together.

Dave Butler.

Dear Bionic Bert,

May I borrow your new Ultra Fast, Leightweight racing bike next time I go out for a leisurely 40 mile ride with the Wednesday Group.

I went out today and got "the knock" by elevenses.  At Milford mind you I rode Wanborough Hill for the first time in an effort to keep up with the "pensioners"

Marguerite as always went home from elevenses, but having been assured they will "slow up" I carried on.  Ha Ha, three of those ex racing types in training for the Trienniel 100, Jeff Holm for his french trip it was heads down and B--- up.

We stopped at Arlford via Frensham Ponds for lunch.  It was then decided we could stop for a cup of tea at Coleus North Camp.  We could get there via Bentley and around Farnham to Aldershot.  It was then through Pirbright camp.  I left them at Woking only too happy to take it easy home.

Maybe Bert I had better go into training for the next time I go out with the Wednesday riders.

Joan Robinson

P.S. Laurie says I should ask you Bert to borrow your legs to go with the bike.

In Reply, to a letter in the last magazine.

This short note refers to a letter in the last magazine, by an "Intermediate", who complained about the behaviour of some "Generals" while arriving at tea in Abinger Hammer.  I shall not try to defend our actions that day, but wish to comment on the phrase: "not a lady among them"!.  I hope that the "Intermediate" merely overlooked the presence of my wife in this group and that they were not passing judgement on my wifes character.

Yours sincerely,

Very Fast of Guildford

Dear West Surrey DA,


As you know the South Bucks DA are this year hosting the Final of the BCTC in the Aylesbury area on 30th/31st August.  This as I am sure you are aware from experience requires considerable organisation and relies on the assistance of an army of volunteers.

The organisers are looking for a total of about 60 people on the afternoon of Sat. 30th and 75 on the morning of Sunday 31st.  The South Bucks DA are able of course to supply a large number of helpers but welcome any and all assistance from members of your DA.

If any of your members are able to offer assistance perhaps they could contact the organiser: Cilla Gosnell, 40 Sixty Acres Road, Prestwood, Gt. Missenden, Bucks. Tel. Gt Missenden (02406) 3679.

Accommodation may be available at Ivinghoe YH, Hambledon Hall and local B&B although on this I cannot be definative.

Yours sincerely,

Rory Bewlay.

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Short easy rides in the Godalming area will be held on Wednesday evenings during the summer.  Start from CTC HQ, Meadrow at 7.30p.m.  The rides will explore local lanes and tracks before concluding at a nearby pub with garden.

9th July The Stag, Eashing
16th July The Ram Cide House, Godalming
23rd July The Star, Witley
30th July CTC Clubroom, Rowing Club, Guildford
6th August Estead
13th August The Ram Cider House, Godalming
Families welcome, please bring lights.  For further details phone Helen Juden, Godalming 25794.

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Noticed recently on a wet day when group riding with the DA was the absence of rear mudflaps.  Be sociable and fit one.  The best can be made for nothing from a used washing up liquid bottle.  Two small nuts and bolts through the rear guard complete the job.


It is with great sadness that this edition must record the death of three of our friends.  We all extend our sympathies to the families of Hugh Rawlinson and Derek Constable, also to Doreen whose son died in a car accident.  Full obituaries are recorded in Cycletouring but DA members should note that Dereks life could have been spared had a bone marrow transplant been available.  A register of donor volunteers is maintained by Round Table member Ian Smith on Godalming 5311.  Ian awaits your call.

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